Example of glueing different silnylons to each other. The orange patch of silnylon is effectively glued onto a silnylon dry bag using acetic cure silicone rubber. The dry bag has subsequently survived many outdoor adventures without the patch breaking down.
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Silnylon glueing

Glueing, laminating and seam sealing of silnylon with acetic cure silicone rubber for DIY ultralight backpacking projects are discussed.

This is an early post about only silnylon glueing and there is a later post about many other more general RTV silicone rubber glueing ideas and projects including cotton fabric.

Liquid acetic cure silicone rubber can be effectively used to glue and seal silnylon for DIY projects. However, in my experience, the strength of the bond is variable according to the particular silnylon used. So far I have not been able to find out why there is such a difference and performing test with samples of the fabric is the only sure way to find out the glueing qualities of a particular fabric. The shear strength of all glued seals is adequate for seam sealing and applying simple patches to small holes, the ‘peel strength’ is the variable that is of concern when the glueing is attaching a load bearing component that is not applying pure shear loads to their glued surfaces.

Examples of glued silnylon fabrics

Large ultralight tent stove warming seven snow trekkers. The fuel sticks in the tube (on the right side) reflect a small glow from the burner as they are being dried by the intense heat from the burner. However, dry sticks are needed to start the burn.

A 31 g lay flat snow melting/boiling kettle on a wood-fired ultralight tent stove. The kettle’s silnylon bag and the copper foil base are glued together with acetic cure silicone rubber.
700ml lay flat kettle (~31 g) on gas stove.
A 700ml lay flat kettle (~31 g) on a gas stove. The green bag in the background is the flat sachet used for backpacking the kettle.
Flat flue gland in water shedding pocket in tent with the yellow cord holding the keeper flap in place
A water-shedding pocket glued to a tent with silicon rubber. It is used on tents that are to be used with micro tent stoves. The pocket can hold a protective aluminium foil gland to keep a hot flue pipe clear of the nylon tent. The yellow cord and cord lock hold the keeper flap in place. To the left is a substitute light plastic window that can be used when the tent stove is not in use.
The orange patch of silnylon is effectively glued onto a red silnylon dry bag using acetic cure silicone rubber, as an experiment. The dry bag has subsequently survived many outdoor adventures without the patch breaking down. "With what I now know about glueing silnylon, I would not have been so cavalier about cutting the hole in the dry bag. I was just lucky that the two fabrics glued well this time!"

The orange patch of silnylon is effectively glued onto a red silnylon dry bag using acetic cure silicone rubber, as an experiment. The dry bag has subsequently survived many outdoor adventures without the patch breaking down. “With what I now know about glueing silnylon, I would not have been so cavalier about cutting the hole in the dry bag. I was just lucky that the two fabrics glued well this time!”

Not all silnylons glue well

The orange and red silnylon in the above photos glue well with RTV acetic cure silicone rubber and the joints have high ‘peel’ strength and excellent shear strength.

However, I have obtained other silnylon such as that used in my latest square ultralight tent that is made of the grey silnylon. Glueing with this fabric has much less ‘peel strength’ and can not be trusted in high load bearing situations without the use of supplementary stitching.

Tricks for silnylon seam sealing

After the sewing of tent seams, usually with lay flat or french seams, I seal all seams with a mixture of 1 part acetic cure silicone rubber mixed thoroughly with 4 parts of clean turpentine (1:4 wt/wt or vol/vol is good enough). The turpentine should be clean mineral turpentine or mineral spirits. A small bottle of mineral spirits or a larger bottle of mineral spirits will do, but a larger bottle will be useful for larger projects such as tent sealing and other DIY tinkering projects.

The mix should be made in small quantities and brushed thoroughly into the seams. For this, I use an old ironing board covered with a black polythene sheet. Some of the sealant should come through onto the plastic when good penetration is achieved. I make a small batch of sealant for each seam as the mix starts to gel and go ‘goopy’ after a few minutes (This polymerization reaction is apparently is as a result of exposure to moisture from the air that catalyzes the reaction. It is probably the reason why the ‘acetic cure silicon rubber’ is so good for bathroom sealing.) The sealant is difficult to mix quickly by hand, but it can be done quickly in a small tube with a DIY ‘whip wizzer‘ stick run in a Dremel tool. The Dremel tool is an absolutely indispensable tool for many of the projects on my website.

Tim

More adventure gear glueing

If you are a DIY adventure gear nerd like myself, you may be interested in my other glueing posts. However, before them, I thought a little ode about the fluid meaning of ‘nerdism’ would be fitting.

I tinkered in my shed like a passionate knurd,
Or should I use gnurd, a more gnarly word,
Or nurd, another old and similar pejorative,
Meaning of all, now have morphed into positive narrative,
So with obsession and a touch of pride I embrace the current term nerd.

Glued repair to adventure gear

RTV silicone rubber, Oogoo, Sugru, Kintsuglue and Tommy tap comparison

Glueing instead of pinning for sewing backpacking tents

DIY stove jack glue-on and sew-on for hot tents

Contact glue tent repair

Schnozzel bag repair

2 Comments

  1. Have you ever tried elstosil e43?
    They stated that it is used for siliconized fabrics on their website

    1. Author

      Hi, No I have never tried elstosil e43. From their specifications it seems to be acetic silicone rubber-moisture cure. It is however a lot more expensive than bog ordinary acetic cure RTV silicone rubber for bathrooms etc.Tim

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